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Who did Samuel STOKES marry?
published by daveerasmus - 3 years 9 months 4 days ago.

Hi Pat.

As you know, I also have STOKES ancestors. So I have Samuel and Elizabeth in my tree even though I am not a direct descendant of theirs. For what it is worth I have exactly the same information as you. That doesn't help very much though I'm afraid.

Although Elizabeth's name has been correctly transcribed as PEATES, I did wonder if it might have been recorded incorrectly in the marriage record (I note that she marked). For example, might it have been PITTS or PETERS? The marriage was concluded after Banns. Have you managed to find a record of the Banns?

Dave Erasmus


19 Broadweir, Bristol
published by Pat Hase - 3 years 9 months 9 days ago.

I have been informed that Tithe maps for the centre of towns are not available because those areas were no linger subject to tithes but had been rated.   


19 Broadweir, Bristol
published by gricharduk - 3 years 9 months 13 days ago.

No problem at all. I discovered Slater's Directory while researching my own tree - it is great. The HathiTrust Digital Library is a good resource for books (some of them very old) and the Internet Archive is an even larger store of documents and books. The Internet Archive also includes fairly modern books that are free to (digitally) borrow once registered.


19 Broadweir, Bristol
published by Pat Hase - 3 years 9 months 13 days ago.

Thank you again, Richard! - The Slaters National Commercial Directory is a new source for me and it's fascinating that Thomas LONG was mentioned in it at 2 Broad Weir in 1835, earlier than I had found him in that area.   It does suggest that Thomas has possibly trained as a currier in Bristol.
I've always found the apology from Alfred BUSH amusing - you can only imagine what was going on that evening!  So, I think we have proved that Thomas did move to No 19.


19 Broadweir, Bristol
published by gricharduk - 3 years 9 months 14 days ago.

Slater's National Commercial for 1835 lists the following (that I could find quickly) at Broad Weir/Broadweir. As you can see from the table, Thomas is at number 2 (shared with John Wesley May the baker). The interesting thing is that John Wesley May appears at Number 19 in the 1849 edition of Hunt & Co's Directory and that he was declared bankrupt in 1843. Number 19 appears to be next to the Crown Tavern at Number 18 (see this apology by Alfred Bush in the Bristol Mercury for 26 March 1859). Ann Manwaring appears in the 1840 census here (Ancestry subscription required) so Number 17 certainly existed at that point. I agree with you Pat - He moved to Number 19 (already extant) after 1851 (and before 1856) because he needed larger premises.

Henry Hicks

1

Boot and shoe maker

Ann Coke

1

Grocer and tea dealer

John Wesley May

2

Baker

Thomas Long

2

Currier and leather cutter

Phoebe Teek

3

Pawnbroker

John Baylis

6, The Bell Inn

Landlord

Henry Wait

10

Cabinet maker

Jacob Smith

13

Baker

George Lewis

15

(Wine) and spirits dealer

Ann Manwaring

17

Toy maker and dealer

George Stephens

18, The Crown Tavern

Landlord


19 Broadweir, Bristol
published by Pat Hase - 3 years 9 months 15 days ago.

By comparing the residents of Broad Weir on the 1851 census with those on the 1861 census I believe that Thomas Long moved to the other end of Broad Weir probably to bigger premises. Rating Books might confirm this.  The tithe map is not available on Know Your Place and I have been unable to locate that area of Bristol on The Genealogist Tithe Maps but as that was taken in 1840 the apportionments might help locate Broad Weir.


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