Comments

Could this be it?

From Somerset, England, School Registers, 1860-1914, Wraxall Boys School

Right place, right time...

Rob

PS In Case you cannot read this it says Herbert STOKES DOB, 10/1/81, Living in Wraxall, Father Labourer, Left 23 Sep 1892, Gone to Australia

Thank you!!  I did know about the two Charles Marmaduke STOKES sons - sad that they both died - would love to know where the Marmaduke came from.  I had the death of Eleanor and assumed that was why Hubert was with his grandparents in 1891. The grandparents died in 1895 and 1900 so he would have moved to somewhere else at that point.

Found a bit more ...

Have you noticed there were 2 Charles Marmaduke STOKES. One born in 1879 in Bristol the other in 1883 in Birmingham. Both had mother with maiden name PALMER.(Same as Hubert born in 1881.)

The 1st Charles M Stokes died at the age of 2 in Birmingham, the 2nd at the age of 0.

Eleanor STOKES possibly died 1885 in Birmingham. There is an entry for someone of her name at Key Hill Cemetery. There is also an entry for Key Hill Cemetery for Charles Marmaduke STOKES in 1883.

So Charles & Herbert were probably still knocking around Birmingham in 1885.

Rob

Many thanks Rob for once again offering suggestions in response to one of my queries.  I have found that the Records of the West Midlands Police 1850-1950 are available on Ancestry and from that have discovered that Charles STOKES signed up on 26th Aug 1879 and resigned on the 11th Nov 1883.  The Charles STOKES who died in 1823 was said to be 70 when he died, which is acceptable, but the only Charles STOKES in Birmingham on the 1921 census is married to an Elizabeth and has a daughter Florence who is married to a William HOLMES and who was born in 1883. My Charles STOKES had a son Charles Marmaduke STOKES in 1883 and a Florence STOKES born in Birmingham in 1883 had a mothers maiden name of ADAMS.  I have sent for the death certificate for further information. Thanks again for your help.  Am still working on H*bert STOKES!

There seems to be a few Family Trees on Ancestry which suggest that Charles died Jun 1923 in Kings Norton, Herbert died 23 Nov 1941 at Dudley Rd Hospital in Birmingham. 

He married m Rose Gordon (widow) oct 25 1911 St James, Ocle Pychard (nr Hereford), Herefordshire. They had a daughter Lydia Rose Stokes (1912-1969).

Have checked a few of the facts and they look correct so would suggest you check out the info directly. For example I found a couple of newspaper reports that mentioned Charles Stokes, police constable in Birmingham in the 1880s

Yesterday I spent an hour working out the timelines for Thomas Suddaby and wife Betsy in Hull,Yorkshire.  Turns out there were two Thomas Suddabys born within 5 years of each other, both in Hull, who both married females named Betsy.  By writing down the details for each census for both Thomas and Betsy I realised I had two 1901 censuses...checking the children's mother's maiden names and the father's occupations I realised that they were two different families - not my Thomas consecutively marrying two women named Betsy.  They do this deliberately, of course - just to confuse us...!!!

Thanks for another great newsletter, Pat.