Why Hungary? published by Brian & Pam Airey on Mon, 18/09/2023 - 10:15
John SHAW, an humble joiner born in Cantsfield, Lancashire in 1835 married Mary Eleanor JOPLIN in 1869 in West Derby, Lancashire. He does not appear in 1871 census and by 1881 he is back in Liverpool area with Mary E and a child Charles Joseph aged 11 years born Hungary. Also resident with him is his brother in law Joseph JOPLIN, who is in the wine and spirit trade. Joseph is in 1861 census but, also like John, not in 1871. So did they all go to Hungary for Joseph to buy wine? Travel must have been difficult as France & Germany were at war. Presumably they would have travelled by train, but how would John with pregnant wife afford to travel that far.
Submitted by Brian & Pam Airey on Tue, 19/09/2023 - 13:22
Thanks for that. I had found the Breach of Promise in the paper and also have seen the Southport paper 1870. I can understand Joseph "going abroad" but why Hungary? It is not on the Grand Tour route surely? The Joplins owned/ran a number of pubs/wine merchants in Liverpool area so must have been quite well off, did Mary Eleanor pay for the Shaws to go?