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Bisdee from Worle and Banwell.
published by on Wed, 02/05/2018 - 18:25
Hi my name is Davina, I am a decedent of James and Harriet Bisdee from Worle. James and his son Edgar were transported to Australia for stealing sheep and chickens) James is Thomas Bisdee of Hutton brother) I have been doing my research since 2011,and I am obsessed and always on the hunt for more information or finding more links to distant family. I have found a lot of information on James and Edgar. I am willing to share and collect more! ( on iPad right now so will put more up later.)
I would love to find some other family researching or information too! Please don't hesitate to contact me.

Davina.

( I am aware of my distant cousin Bisdees in Tasmania, I don't think my Western Australian Bisdees kept in contact, I do know James never sent for his wife, he re-married ( funny story that) only 4 years after being sent here and Harriet married 7 years after, presumably on desertation. )
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Submitted by Pat Hase on Thu, 03/05/2018 - 2:07

I'm wondering how your James is connected with the Thomas BISDEE of Hutton because if you look at the 1841 census you can see James and Harriet living in Wick St Lawrence with their children including Edgar whereas, living in Hutton is another James BISDEE of about the same age. 

This second James, who died in this country in 1863, is the son of Thomas BISDEE (who was born in about 1770) and whose eldest son John BISDEE (1796-1862) is well documented as arriving in Hobart in about 1821 and becoming Governor of Hobart Gaol etc. and setting up Hutton Park in Tasmania. 

Thomas BISDEE also had a son called Thomas but he died in 1830 and was buried in Hutton as can be seen in our transcriptions, aged only 25.

I may be missing something so please let me know the connection.

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Submitted by on Sun, 20/05/2018 - 13:34
Hi Pat, sorry I did make a mistake, James ( who married Harriet) was born on 07 Dec 1800 to James (1773) and Jane Fry, this is the James who is Thomas (of Hutton) brother ( who married Elizabeth Bishop) their parents were John Bisdee (1741) and Anne Kington (1743)
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Submitted by on Sat, 19/05/2018 - 16:40

Hello Davina,

I guess Alfred James Bisdee (born Tasmania, 1855) fits into your Bisdee Family Tree somewhere. If this of interest, he is shown on the 1881 Census as a General Practitioner living at Hutton. (Hutton Court).

The Family History bit is that he attended the births (and deaths) of children of John and Eliza Chappell of Woodborough, Winscombe in the 1870s and early 1880s. (They had 14 children in all).

Alfred Bisdee is of note in the Chappell family for telling John Chappell (the husband) in February 1883, at the birth of their 13th child (George) "Chappell, if your wife has any more children, it will kill her."  She did have another child, on 28 March 1884, and she died three weeks later (on 17 April 1884), from cellulitis and exhaustion.

We had this information first-hand from my wife's mother (born Nora Chappell, 1902), grand-daughter of Henry Chappell (a son of John and Eliza Chappell) who was present in the room when Alfred Bisdee reprimanded John Chappell in 1883.

Henry was nearly 9 years old at the time, and it obviously made a very deep impression on him.  We have Nora, on tape, speaking of her grandfather, Henry, "if he told me this once, he told me this hundreds of times."

I guess this won't help the Bisdee family tree, but  if you are looking for related family information, it seems that Alfred Bisdee was not a man to mince his words!

Best regards, and every success with the family history.

Dennis.

 

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Submitted by on Sun, 20/05/2018 - 13:40
HI Dennis, such an interesting story, and is always great to make these people who we have never met a person rather than just a name and a date. Are there any stories told of Alfreds nephew John Hutton? he is in the Australian biography and I guess he would be the most famous of the Bisdee's?

Davina.
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Submitted by on Thu, 24/05/2018 - 14:46

No, sorry, Davina.  I'm researching the Chappell family of Winscombe, Sandford and area, but if anything else comes to light concerning the Bisdee family, I'll let you know.

As an aside, did you know there is a Bisdee Road in Hutton?

Every success with your researches.

Dennis. 

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Submitted by on Fri, 25/05/2018 - 18:50

Hi Davina, 

  Were you aware that the first Victoria Cross awarded to an Australian was to Trooper John Hutton Bisdee of the Tasmanian Imperial Bushmen.  He rescued a wounded officer when their party was ambushed during the Boer War on 1 September 1900.

Peter

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Submitted by on Sat, 26/05/2018 - 15:49
Hi Peter, yes I have found a lot of records on John Hutton Bisdee. I have him connected in my tree as my 2nd cousin 4 x removed. we share 5th x great grandfather John Bisdee (1741 or Wick St Lawrence) and Ann Kington 1743 Wiltshire) He is in the Australian Biography pages and was one of the first Bisdee's I came across in my searches. I think the Bisdee's in Western Australia were well aware of the Tasmanian cousins as my grandmothers brother who didn't survive infancy was named George John Hutton Bisdee and also my grandmothers cousin was also named John Hutton Bisdee.

Davina.
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