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William Gadd bn c.1846
published by on Thu, 11/04/2013 - 15:22

For some years I have tried to find the date of the birth of William Gadd, so I can purchase a copy of his birth certificate. He is a direct ancestor. He was born about 1846, in Luxborough, Somerset, the local parish register gives his date of baptism as 13 September 1846. I have the certificates for other siblings, all were baptised within some six weeks of birth, suggesting he was born around late summer 1846.

 

I would be delighted with any information.

 Thank you

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Submitted by daveerasmus on Thu, 11/04/2013 - 17:07

It is possible that his birth was registered late(r) for whatever reason. Have you looked at the William GADD whose birth was registered in Williton in 1849?

Dave Erasmus

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Submitted by on Wed, 24/04/2013 - 14:20

Greetings Dave

 

Thank you for taking the trouble to reply to my query. Apologies for the delay in replying but it has been some time since I delved into this side of my ancestry, and I had to check my information, and re-learn it.

 

The William Gadd you mentioned cannot be my man; if my William was registered late then his birth would have been recorded with that relating to the births of his later brothers and sisters. I have copies of these birth certificates, and my William had a brother born 12 Feb 1849, which would preclude the William you mention, since this chap was born during the following quarter.

Furthermore, copies of his marriage certificate, April 1868, record his age as 22, giving a birth year around 1845/46.

His death certificate, issued July 1916, records an age of 69, which would suggest a birth year of 1846/47.

 

Some years ago I did get the GRO to try o find it, but they failed, although I have always believed that they mixed up this with another query I had at that time.

His parents recorded the birth of all their other children diligently, despite moving a couple of times.

 

This is my problem, no reference to a birth means I cannot order a copy of his birth certificate!

 

The mystery continues; but thank you so much for your effort.

 

Best wishes

Edward

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Submitted by daveerasmus on Thu, 25/04/2013 - 22:11

Hi Edward. I accept that all of the evidence suggests a birth in 1846. However, I still think that, due to some oversight, the birth might not have been registered then. Perhaps the later birth/registration of his brother might have prompted the parents into taking action. Perhaps not. But if it were me I'd have to obtain the 1849 certificate - just to be sure!

Dave Erasmus

 

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Submitted by on Thu, 11/04/2013 - 19:30

There appear to be 2 William Gadds born in that area around that time.  Both are registered in the Williton Registration District which includes Luxborough.  They are:-

William Gadd Registered 1Q1843 GRO Volume 10 Page 542

William Gadd Registered 2Q1849 GRO Volume 10 Page 541

Either he was born in 1843, registered then and not baptised until 1846, or born before 1846, baptised then and not registered until 1849.

The other fly in the ointment is that there is a William Gadd registered as dying in the same District in 1Q1848, GRO Volume 10 Page 440.  Unfortunately there is no record of the age at death there.  This could mean that the death relates to the earlier birth and the survivor was the latter birth.

I hope this helps.

Regards, Nic

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Submitted by on Fri, 12/04/2013 - 5:11


WHY NOT SEARCH 1851 CENSUS FOR GADD FAMILY

Because of baptism cost, it was some times much later than birth

1851 Census Household Record
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Household Information
Address
Parish                            Wellington
District                          Wellington, Wellington
Administrative County             Somersetshire
Householder 1
Name                              William Gadd
Age                               44
Estimated Year of Birth           1807
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation                        Farmer Of 120 Acres Employing 7 Labourers
Birth Place                       Trull
Birth County                      Somerset
Householder 2
Name                              Lydia Gadd
Age                               46
Estimated Year of Birth           1805
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation                        Farmers Wife
Birth Place                       Taunton St James
Birth County                      Somerset
Householder 3
Name                              Robert Gadd
Age                               18
Estimated Year of Birth           1833
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation                        Farmers Son
Birth Place                       Taunton St James
Birth County                      Somerset
Householder 4
Name                              Emma Gadd
Age                               15
Estimated Year of Birth           1836
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation                        Farmers Daur
Birth Place                       Taunton St James
Birth County                      Somerset
Householder 5
Name                              William Gadd
Age                               7
Estimated Year of Birth           1844
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation                        Scholar
Birth Place                       Taunton St James
Birth County                      Somerset
Householder 6
Name                              John Gadd
Age                               6
Estimated Year of Birth           1845
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation                        Scholar
Birth Place                       Taunton St James
Birth County                      Somerset
Householder 7
Name                              Sarah Waterman
Age                               69
Estimated Year of Birth           1782
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Occupation
Birth Place                       Langford Budville
Birth County                      Somerset
Householder 8
Name                              Elizabeth Cooksley
Age                               51
Estimated Year of Birth           1800
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation
Birth Place                       Taunton St James
Birth County                      Somerset
Householder 9
Name                              Mary Rowe
Age                               17
Estimated Year of Birth           1834
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation
Birth Place                       Hewish
Birth County                      Somerset
Householder 10
Name                              Robert Goss
Age                               17
Estimated Year of Birth           1834
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation
Birth Place                       Taunton St James
Birth County                      Somerset

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Submitted by Pat Hase on Sun, 14/04/2013 - 16:04

There is also this census entry on the 1851 census of Throate, Luxborough

Ref: HO107 Piece 1920, Folio 288, Page 23

Name Rel Con Age Occ Where Born
GADD, Thomas Head Mar 37 Labourer Elworthy, Somerset
GADD, Mary Ann Wife Mar 35   Bishop Lydeard, Somerset
GADD, Ann Daug   11 Scholar Hill Farance, Somerset
GADD, Charles Son   9 Labourer Norton, Somerset
GADD, Sarah Daug   7 Scholar Norton, Somerset
GADD, William Son   4 Scholar Luxborough, Somerset
GADD, John Son   2   Cutcombe, Somerset

 This seems to fit with your information.

Have you tried contacting the Register Office for the Williton Registration District in case there has been a problem with the original indexing? 

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