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Phillips family of Worle 1790s
published by on Fri, 01/06/2018 - 23:11

Help! I've been researching my family for about 10 years now off and on but there is one brick wall I keep hitting. Does anybody know who the parents were of John Phillips c.1800-1877. I can not find him on any parish records before 1820. He lived in Kewstoke and Worle, was a dairy farmer and married to Ann Rogers of Kewstoke and Worle. I am sure the family trees on Ancestry are wrong they say his parents were John and Elma with no evidence to prove this. Any ideas please?

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Submitted by on Fri, 01/06/2018 - 23:13

Census records claim he was born in Loxton or Lympsham c.1800 but he is not there...

Submitted by BWP46 on Sat, 02/06/2018 - 16:12

My research suggests the parents of John Phillips born 1797, 1799 or 1802 Loxton or Lympsham, were John, born 1770? and Emma Phillips

Submitted by daveerasmus on Sat, 02/06/2018 - 22:10

How do you know that John PHILLIPS' wife was Ann ROGERS? When and where were they married?

Dave Erasmus

Submitted by Pat Hase on Sun, 03/06/2018 - 0:35

It looks as if they were married in Bristol - at St Mary Redcliffe on the 27th March 1824. If this the the same couple do you know who the witnesses were? That may help.

Submitted by on Sun, 03/06/2018 - 9:43

Any ideas why Ann from Kewstoke and John from Lympsham might marry in Bristol and not their Parish? Also there is an entry on the Kewtoke parish register for Jan 16 1825 John Phillips and Ann. Surely logic says that this is more likely to be 'Our' John and Ann?

Submitted by on Sun, 03/06/2018 - 9:24

Hi,

The only evidence I have that John's wife was Ann Rogers was off their son Henry Phillips birth certificate. I have also checked Loxton, Lympsham and nearby areas parish recods and drawn a blank. There is a high Phillips presence but not the elusive John.

Submitted by on Sun, 03/06/2018 - 9:41

Also at Kewstoke on Jan 16 1825 John Phillips married Ann. Logic says to me that this is them.

Submitted by daveerasmus on Sun, 03/06/2018 - 17:41

I can find a baptism for a John to John PHILLIPS and Ann in Kewstoke on 16 January 1825 and that would fit nicely with the marriage Pat found in Bristol. Are you saying there was a marriage of John PHILLIPS and Ann in Kewstoke on the same date? I haven't been able to find that.

Dave Erasmus

Submitted by on Sun, 03/06/2018 - 9:47

For my money, although I can't prove it John's father or close relative might be Arnold Phillips who was a farmer in Worle in the late 1700s and early 1800s.

Submitted by daveerasmus on Sun, 03/06/2018 - 18:24

There is a John PHILLIPS, widower, born in Loxton c1797 living in Worle in 1871. According to the Census record he was in receipt of Relief. Have you looked at the Parish Relief records to see if there is anything there which might help? This is very much Pat's area of expertise (one of them), so she might be able to help.

Dave Erasmus

Submitted by on Sun, 03/06/2018 - 22:04

I don't know if it helps but a lot of my Weston super Mare Hodges family married in Bristol between 1840s and 1860s. There appears to be no reason for this, they subsequently lived in Weston. I wonder if it was considered smart and fashionable to marry in a larger church.