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Link between Keel and Creyghton/Creighton in Yatton?
published by on Tue, 12/11/2013 - 8:38

Iâ€™m interested in the name Creyghton/Creighton. My great-grandfatherâ€™s brother had the unusual name, James Creighton Keel Reed. Nobody in my family knew where the names Creighton and Keel came from. I have recently discovered a link through JCKRâ€™s grandmother, Catherine Keel, with the family of Henry and Hannah Keel in Yatton. Henry was a farmer.

One of Catherineâ€™s brothers was called Charles Creyghton Keel. He was baptised at Yatton on 15.6.1800. I know that he was living in Cleeve, Yatton at the time of the 1851 census.

Iâ€™ve read that Robert Creyghton, who died in 1755, was vicar of Yatton in the 1700s. Iâ€™ve also discovered that Albert Burges, son of George Burges from Cleeve, Yatton, married an Emma Creyghton Keel, daughter of William Keel of Brighton,in Melbourne on 16.3.1867. I wonder if this William is one of the sons (b.1816) of Henry and Hannah. Emma Creyghton Keel was baptised at St. Mary Redcliffe on 21.2.1847.

Iâ€™m intrigued to know if thereâ€™s a link between Robert Creyghton, vicar of Yatton, and the Keel family and would be grateful if anyone can shed any light on this mystery.

Thank you for your help,

Catherine

Comments ..

Submitted by Pat Hase on Thu, 14/11/2013 - 2:07

It looks very likely that you are on the right lines with your thinking that William KEEL could be the son of Henry & Hannah KEEL. When William KEEL married Susan CRABB in Bristol in 1843 (see Familysearch) - he gave his father's name as Henry KEEL.

Henry KEEL married a Hannah TAYLOR in Yatton in 1796 and while searching through the baptisms to find a christening for Hannah TAYLOR I noticed one for a Robert Creyghton TAYLOR s/o John & Catherine TAYLOR - and they also have a daughter Hanna - It would be worth tracing this line further back to see if you can find a connection with the CREYGHTON family. It's interesting to note that an earlier Rev Robert CREYGHTON had been a Dean of Wells Cathedral but not all men with that name were ministers - there was a porter at Wells Workhouse in 1868 also alled Robert CREYGHTON

In trying to sort out your family I noted that Catherine KEEL married in the same church as my parents in Stapleton and that in 1911 James Creighton Keel REED was living in 5 Ridgeway Road while my grandparents were at 12 Ridgeway Road so the phrase small world comes to mind!

It would be interesting to go through all the records of Yatton to see if the name crops up with connections to other families. If there was a charity set up by the Rev CREYGHTON it could be that children were given that name in the hope that they might benefit. The same thing happened in Bristol with the name COLSTON.

Submitted by on Fri, 15/11/2013 - 11:35

Thank you very much for your comments.
I wonder if John Taylorâ€™s wife, Catherine, who must have been born about 1750, could be the daughter, Catherine Bullock, mentioned in this will which I found yesterday.
http://wsom-opc.org.uk/assets/components/opc_database/willslist.php?page=1&w=&p=608&c=&k=113&s=
If so, with your help, Iâ€™ve found my way back to a Creyghton surname. The will suggests that they were rather affluent so I suppose itâ€™s possible that they could have been related to the Creyghtons in office in the Bath and Wells diocese, who knows?!

Catherine

Submitted by Pat Hase on Sat, 16/11/2013 - 13:33

What an interesting Will! I like your supposition about the marriage of John TAYLOR to a Catherine CREYGHTON but if you look at the Yatton marriages you will see that it looks as if John's wife had a different surname but one which also occurs in the Will. Just a word of warning - you do have to be aware that spellings can vary somewhat depending on the pronunciation and "F" and "V" can sound the same and that the spelling of TAYLOR can also vary!!.

As it is so much more interesting to do the research yourself I am of course suggesting that you become a full member especially as there are so many connections with this area.

It was interesting to note that the name KEEL is also in the Will - have you found a link to a Ffrances KEEL?

I see that although Elizabeth BULLOCK's Will says she was of Yatton both she and her husband, Joseph were buried at St Andrew's Clevedon. So there might be links to Clevedon in their ancestry. Catherine BULLOCK appears to be their only surviving child - do you know who she married?

The CREYGHTON connection is proving fascinating and it may well be worth while undertaking an intensive reconstruction of that family as well as your own in order to establish a link - but I suspect you are already doing this.

Submitted by on Mon, 03/03/2014 - 7:24

Yes, Iâ€™m hooked on this puzzle and definitely want to sign up as a full member.
I know that a Frances Lyons married a William Keel and had a number of children between 1718 and 1731.
I have also found a Stephen Keele who married a Frances Vowles on November 2nd 1756 in Yatton and, of course, Vowles is mentioned in the Bullock will.
I havenâ€™t found any other information about Catherine Bullock.
Thank you again for your help and advice.
Catherine

Submitted by on Tue, 26/11/2013 - 17:43

Hi
I too have an interest in the TAYLOR & CREYGHTON families. John TAYLOR 1742-81 is my 4x great grandfather. He married Catherine VOWLES/FOWLES (1741-1828)in Yatton in 1766 by licence. They had a number of children, one of whom, Robert Creygthon TAYLOR is my 3x greatgrandfather. Catherine VOWLES was baptised in Yatton 19 Apr 1741, the daughter of William & Francese VOWLES. William Vowles married Francese CREYGTHON at St Augustine-the-less, Bristol 23 Oct 1732. Francese VOWLES was buried 26 Mar 1743 in Yatton. I have 5 baptisms of children from William & Francese between 1734 and 1741.
However, I have not discovered any details of Francese's baptism so am unaware of her parents.
I wondered if this might help the discussion, or whether anyone had any further infrmation to share/exchange.
I am happy to share what information I have. The above dates have been verified by SRO in Taunton who sourced this information for me. The marriage in Bristol was sourced by a professional researcher on my behalf.
Regards
Jim

Submitted by on Wed, 27/11/2013 - 9:01

Hello Jim
Thank you for your information. Iâ€™ve only just begun to look into this family but it seems more and more likely that Frances CREYGHTON, wife of William VOWLES, is descended from Robert CREYGHTON, Bishop of Bath and Wells. His wife was called Francisca/Frances WALROND (d.30.10.1683). Their son, Robert CREYGHTON (Canon and composer of church music), had a daughter who was also called Frances so the name seems to have continued in the family.
I have discovered that this Frances, who married Marshall Brydges, had a son, Edmund, and he married a Fredwisa TAYLOR, whose mother was a CREYGHTON so the families are possibly further interconnected.
http://books.google.se/books?id=VxdVAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA555&lpg=PA555&dq=bishop+creyghton&source=bl&ots=eENtIMghcE&sig=7oJs01tKYfhUWuFv5KFq_1x9X_E&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=RzZ9UriyFau54wTpqoCIDQ&ved=0CDUQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=bishop%20creyghton&f=false
Robert Creyghton TAYLORâ€™S sister, Hannah TAYLOR, who married Henry KEEL in Yatton in 1796 was my 4x great-grandmother. I wonder if Henryâ€™s father was a Stephen KEELE who married Frances VOWLES in Yatton in 1756 and if this Frances was a sister of Catherine VOWLES. I would be interested to know the names of William and Francesâ€™s children.
In establishing a link with the CREYGHTONS of Wells, the first question seems to be, whose daughter is Frances CREYGHTON?
I would be very happy to share any information which I have. Iâ€™m intending to join the society as a full member after the New Year so some more links may come to light then.
Regards
Catherine

Submitted by on Sun, 01/12/2013 - 17:52

Hi Catherine

Many thanks for your reply and the interesting information you have provided - really helpful in possibly taking the line back a further generation if, as you say, Robert CREYGHTON (Snr) was Francese's father - an educated guess at this stage?

I do have further information on the TAYLOR line going back about 3 further generations from Hannah TAYLOR if this would help you.

Do you have any additional information on the CREYGHTON family?

Regards
Jim

The children of William & Francese VOLWLES that I have so far traced are as follows:
(1) Francese VOWLES - baptised 14 Jul 1734
(2) Matthew VOWLES - baptised 12 Jul 1736
(3) Thomas VOWLES - baptised 25 Feb 1738
(4) Robert VOWLES - baptised 30 Mar 1740
(5) Catherine VOWLES - baptised 19 Apr 1741 - married John TAYLOR 15 May 1766 in Yatton

It would appear that Catherine was very probably the younger sister of Francese VOWLES who married Stephen KEELE in 1756 - her baptism date would fit with a woman of marrying age in 1756.

Submitted by on Mon, 02/12/2013 - 10:17

Hi Jim
Thank you very much for your informaton.
So Henry KEELand Hannah TAYLOR were first cousins.
It seems very likely that there are several interconnections between these families who no doubt formed a group of well-to -do people in the area, donâ€™t you think? I think that there could well be a link through the Taylors since Bishop Robert CREYGHTONâ€™S great- grandson (Edmund BRYDGES) married a TAYLOR, and her mother was a CREYGHTON. Who was she?
Obviously the Francese CREYGHTON who married William VOWLES must be the daughter of a man called CREYGHTON. The children of Bishop Robert CREYGHTON 1593-1672 that Iâ€™ve found so far are:
Robert, Prebendary of Wells and composer
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Creighton,_Robert_(1639%3F-1734)_(DNB00)
Thomas*, d. 12.11.1674, bur 13.11.1674 http://www.archive.org/stream/wellscathedralit00jewerich/wellscathedralit00jewerich_djvu.txt
Catherine, who married Francis Poulet
George
Here, http://www.archive.org/stream/wellscathedralit00jewerich/wellscathedralit00jewerich_djvu.txt
you can see the following info:
By his wife Frances, daughter of William Walrond, Esq., he had : â€”
i. Robert, Canon of Wells, etc., who married and had issue : Alexander, died
1739 ; Catherine, married Rev. Henry Layng, Archdeacon of Wells ; Frances,
married Marshall Brydges ; and Margaret, mar. Rev. John Pope, Chancellor of
Wells.
ii. Thomas, buried in the Cathedral. *
iii. George. ? Capt. George Creyghton. 1685 june 13 (same source)
iv. Katherine, mar. to Francis Poulett.
The Bishop's will is dated 17 Nov. 1672, and was proved by his son Robert 31 Dec. 1672.
I suppose Francese VOWLES (nÃ©e CREYGHTON) could be a daughter of Alexander CREYGHTON but his will mentions only two children, John and Mary.
Alternatively she could be descended direct from one of the Bishopâ€™s sons, Thomas or George, maybe?
I can send you the files which I have collected so far on the CREYGHTONS.
Regards
Catherine

Submitted by on Tue, 25/02/2014 - 16:44

Hi Catherine

Not sure if you had tried to send me any files, but I have not seen anything. If possible, it would be good to follow up this link and see what can be discovered.

my email address is: jimbrimble@btopenworld.com

Regards
Jim

Submitted by on Tue, 25/03/2014 - 9:07

Hello Jim

I'm sorry you haven't received the information which I sent you. I'll be in touch via your email.

Regards

Catherine